On discussing what the Democrats need to do
From a reply I made on another forum discusing what the Democrats need to do, in general, in all it's unadulterated and spell checked glory. Don't mind the typos, they just add character.
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First thing the Democrats need to do is find their balls.
Second thing they need to do is start acting like a minority party and not the liberal wing of the majority party.
Will kids heed the call? If you're registered to The New Republic read this article.
If you're not registered, it's free for web content, which that article is, and it worth reading. The author discuss's going back to his home town to see his younger brother graduate from the high school class that just started class when the Sept. 11th attacks happened. For one it's a freak over achiever town that pushes it's kids to excell in academics and pretty much everything else, but you might think that these high achieving kids might want to serve their country. You would be thinking wrong, however. I'll let the article speak for itself.
The war in Iraq can be won with what we got there, eventualy, but it'll take restructuring the whole aproach to it, and the Republicans don't ave the world clout or the domestic will to make it happen. The Democrats won't institute a draft any more then the Republicans will, but they would be more responsible and accountable to the fuck ups going on in Iraq. They need to emphasize the immediate benefit the US would get from the Republicans losing the majority of Congress as wel las the White House. Bush has killed us on the world stage. Countries deal with us because they *have* to, not because they *want* to. The Democrats can change that, bring in more help, the UN, have some people with some fucking military brains actualy running the war instead of civilian armchair chickenhawks.
Point on the economy, Bush jsut forced his head of the SEC out. He hired the dude to implement corporate reform and clean shit up, and he did. He actualy did the fucking job he was appointed to do, and the whole time all he had to do was rely on the two Democrat members to over ride his two fellow Republicans that kept voting against him. Well you can imagine the consternation that was coming from Wall Street getting actual reform shoved down their throats, so when one Democrat left for personal reason, Bush never filled his seat, which he doesn't have to if he dosn't want to, there's been as few as 2 (out of 5) people on the SEC baord before. But by not filling the vacant Democratic seat, Bush robbed his man Donaldson of any ability to push reform as everything was deadlocked between him and the lone Democrat and the two other Republicans 2-2.
Now ain't that fucked up? No wonder no one in the Bush administration does their job right; they'd get fired for it instead of medals and promotions.
Taxes? Roll back every single fucking tax cut Bush has shat out his ass. Fucking TAX CUTS during WAR TIME!!!!!
I can not emphasize the serverity of how messed up that is.
What the Democrats need to be running on is accountability, of which currently there is none on the federal level. They need to emphasize shenanigans from DeLay like forcing lobbying firms to hire only Repbulican lobbyists and fire the Democrat one's. They need to be pushing the fact that Bush's man in the EPA or somewhere has been editing every fucking scientific report the administratoin has put out on pollution and global warming. They need to remind people that Bush forced Whitman to lie about air quality at 'ground zero', this is fact, Whitman resigned over it.
Accountability. The Democrats need to hold themselves to it, and Bush especialy. They need to slow Conbgress down, they need to push their agenda; wage parity, corporate reform and accountability, protecting the environment, being accountable in the war in Iraq, getting the troops the fucking armor they need, protecting the elderly, not giving the drug companies non God Damned negotiable Medicare drug giveaways, deficit reduction, states rights, personal responsibility not big Christian brothre breathing down your neck.
But the main thing the Democrats need to get back is their balls. Confrontation time, people. In their face time. Let Dean lose, not shut him up. They need to pull together and stand united, not wander across the fucking aisle for pet projects; they need to obstruct everything!
The Republicans learned nothing from the Democrats about being an effective majority party. And the Democrats learned less then nothing from the Republicans about being an effective minority party.
The war in Iraq is not related to the war on terroris,. The peopl eknow that now. Bush is losing the people on Iraq. The Democrats need to grab that fact and shake the living piss out of it. They might even lose another term or two. But it took the Republicans 40 years to get back into power,and now they own everything. The Democrats need to do some long term planning and bite the bullet.
Classic example was Gingrinch pulling everyone down including himself to an extenet in the House check scandle. SOme Republicans lost their careers on that, but it mortaly wounded the Democrats. They had no effective counter to it. Instead of eating their own like the Republicans did, they tried to say everyone did it, it was no big deal. Meanwhile Newts cutting the life lines of the drowning GOP'rs and taking the only life raft.
But when Newt shut down Congress, while having a majority, he just came off as a whiner. And if Congress screached to a halt right now, with them owning all three branches, no matter who's fault it was it would just hurt the Republicans. The Democrats have nothing to lose and everything to gain by bringing it down on top of them.
They pussied out on the filibuster though. If they weren;t willing to fight as a united party for the filibuster, then they can't hold it togethre for nothing. The Republican took control because they *always* towed the party line. NO ONE walked across to the left side and helped on anything during Newts 'revolution'.
They changed the rules.
Meanwhile the Democrats are still under the impressiong they're still playing tha game, not realizing the Republicans were playing a totaly different game. Not just not the same rules, not even the same fucking game!
I think too many Americans don't realize the extent of the Republicans fukcing of everything up. DeLay with his "K Street' lobbyist campaign, to the copy and paste from industry lobbyists and lawyers being inserted word for word in laws and regulations, to the fact that so many billions from Iraq are unnacounted for, lost completely, and that none of the $300 Billion so far has been included in any budget. Appropriations bills only people. Guess what happens when the bill comes due? The long term on the economy is shit as the world transitions to the east and leaves us eating dust and no coherent, no even incoherent strategy from the Bush administration.
The cost of corporate supplied health insurance add's on average $1,400 to the cost of a car made in th eUS as opossed to Canada, and even more compared to Mexico, which is where all the manufacturing is going to go if Bush get's his fucking CAFTA, if not even further south. Plus that'll give him incentive to 'intervene' in countries in the OAS. Go ahead, read up on it.
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First thing the Democrats need to do is find their balls.
Second thing they need to do is start acting like a minority party and not the liberal wing of the majority party.
Will kids heed the call? If you're registered to The New Republic read this article.
If you're not registered, it's free for web content, which that article is, and it worth reading. The author discuss's going back to his home town to see his younger brother graduate from the high school class that just started class when the Sept. 11th attacks happened. For one it's a freak over achiever town that pushes it's kids to excell in academics and pretty much everything else, but you might think that these high achieving kids might want to serve their country. You would be thinking wrong, however. I'll let the article speak for itself.
The war in Iraq can be won with what we got there, eventualy, but it'll take restructuring the whole aproach to it, and the Republicans don't ave the world clout or the domestic will to make it happen. The Democrats won't institute a draft any more then the Republicans will, but they would be more responsible and accountable to the fuck ups going on in Iraq. They need to emphasize the immediate benefit the US would get from the Republicans losing the majority of Congress as wel las the White House. Bush has killed us on the world stage. Countries deal with us because they *have* to, not because they *want* to. The Democrats can change that, bring in more help, the UN, have some people with some fucking military brains actualy running the war instead of civilian armchair chickenhawks.
Point on the economy, Bush jsut forced his head of the SEC out. He hired the dude to implement corporate reform and clean shit up, and he did. He actualy did the fucking job he was appointed to do, and the whole time all he had to do was rely on the two Democrat members to over ride his two fellow Republicans that kept voting against him. Well you can imagine the consternation that was coming from Wall Street getting actual reform shoved down their throats, so when one Democrat left for personal reason, Bush never filled his seat, which he doesn't have to if he dosn't want to, there's been as few as 2 (out of 5) people on the SEC baord before. But by not filling the vacant Democratic seat, Bush robbed his man Donaldson of any ability to push reform as everything was deadlocked between him and the lone Democrat and the two other Republicans 2-2.
Now ain't that fucked up? No wonder no one in the Bush administration does their job right; they'd get fired for it instead of medals and promotions.
Taxes? Roll back every single fucking tax cut Bush has shat out his ass. Fucking TAX CUTS during WAR TIME!!!!!
I can not emphasize the serverity of how messed up that is.
What the Democrats need to be running on is accountability, of which currently there is none on the federal level. They need to emphasize shenanigans from DeLay like forcing lobbying firms to hire only Repbulican lobbyists and fire the Democrat one's. They need to be pushing the fact that Bush's man in the EPA or somewhere has been editing every fucking scientific report the administratoin has put out on pollution and global warming. They need to remind people that Bush forced Whitman to lie about air quality at 'ground zero', this is fact, Whitman resigned over it.
Accountability. The Democrats need to hold themselves to it, and Bush especialy. They need to slow Conbgress down, they need to push their agenda; wage parity, corporate reform and accountability, protecting the environment, being accountable in the war in Iraq, getting the troops the fucking armor they need, protecting the elderly, not giving the drug companies non God Damned negotiable Medicare drug giveaways, deficit reduction, states rights, personal responsibility not big Christian brothre breathing down your neck.
But the main thing the Democrats need to get back is their balls. Confrontation time, people. In their face time. Let Dean lose, not shut him up. They need to pull together and stand united, not wander across the fucking aisle for pet projects; they need to obstruct everything!
The Republicans learned nothing from the Democrats about being an effective majority party. And the Democrats learned less then nothing from the Republicans about being an effective minority party.
The war in Iraq is not related to the war on terroris,. The peopl eknow that now. Bush is losing the people on Iraq. The Democrats need to grab that fact and shake the living piss out of it. They might even lose another term or two. But it took the Republicans 40 years to get back into power,and now they own everything. The Democrats need to do some long term planning and bite the bullet.
Classic example was Gingrinch pulling everyone down including himself to an extenet in the House check scandle. SOme Republicans lost their careers on that, but it mortaly wounded the Democrats. They had no effective counter to it. Instead of eating their own like the Republicans did, they tried to say everyone did it, it was no big deal. Meanwhile Newts cutting the life lines of the drowning GOP'rs and taking the only life raft.
But when Newt shut down Congress, while having a majority, he just came off as a whiner. And if Congress screached to a halt right now, with them owning all three branches, no matter who's fault it was it would just hurt the Republicans. The Democrats have nothing to lose and everything to gain by bringing it down on top of them.
They pussied out on the filibuster though. If they weren;t willing to fight as a united party for the filibuster, then they can't hold it togethre for nothing. The Republican took control because they *always* towed the party line. NO ONE walked across to the left side and helped on anything during Newts 'revolution'.
They changed the rules.
Meanwhile the Democrats are still under the impressiong they're still playing tha game, not realizing the Republicans were playing a totaly different game. Not just not the same rules, not even the same fucking game!
I think too many Americans don't realize the extent of the Republicans fukcing of everything up. DeLay with his "K Street' lobbyist campaign, to the copy and paste from industry lobbyists and lawyers being inserted word for word in laws and regulations, to the fact that so many billions from Iraq are unnacounted for, lost completely, and that none of the $300 Billion so far has been included in any budget. Appropriations bills only people. Guess what happens when the bill comes due? The long term on the economy is shit as the world transitions to the east and leaves us eating dust and no coherent, no even incoherent strategy from the Bush administration.
The cost of corporate supplied health insurance add's on average $1,400 to the cost of a car made in th eUS as opossed to Canada, and even more compared to Mexico, which is where all the manufacturing is going to go if Bush get's his fucking CAFTA, if not even further south. Plus that'll give him incentive to 'intervene' in countries in the OAS. Go ahead, read up on it.
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