Obama's time is not now.
I really don't see how people think Obama is all that different than any other politician. Babel I believe has posted a number of links about how he came up through the old Tamany Hall style political system, even his early quest for church support even though he wasn't really all that religious to begin with. Then he 'attends' a church for 20 years and only just now, when everyone else notices it, rejects and denounces his preacher of 20 years? If that isn't old skool political pandering I don't know what is.
I see Obama's claims of 'change' and 'hope' hinging mostly on one thing, the fact that's he's bi-racial with hints of other than Christianity in his background and that as a result he can presents a fresh new face to the world.
All his talk about bipartisanship is hooey, as neither side wants to reconcile with the other. They make their political bread and butter demonizing each other, why the hell would they want to work together, lose their respective base support, and further marginalize themselves by increasing voter apathy and disinterest in the political process? Because you know that as soon as both sides start working together to get things done no one is going to pay attention anymore. We only pay attention to train wrecks and freak shows, that's the reality today.
So how is Obama gonna change a system neither side of the two party system wants to change? They change the system, they can't game it when their in power. Yeah it sucks when you're in the minority, but when you get in the majority you got it made, and neither side wants to change the status quo. I just don't see how Obama is going to change squat.
Instead I see the minority GOP running circles around him while he talks pretty and compromises to get them to and they never do, and they never will. Modern Republican politics are based on morality, and just as with morality itself the pious will never compromise. The Democrats will compromise, the Republicans won't. Most of the big name Republicans retiring this cycle, or that have retired in the last couple of years, have been the old skool fiscal cons and moderates. The GOP is becoming even more radical in it's morality based politics, that McCain has had to do and say what he has, even after the utter failure of Bush, is proof enough of the path the GOP has chosen.
We need Obama like when we needed Clinton, after the shit is over, when we can afford to take chances and try new shit and compromise. Obama's time is coming, I just don't think it's now.
I see Obama's claims of 'change' and 'hope' hinging mostly on one thing, the fact that's he's bi-racial with hints of other than Christianity in his background and that as a result he can presents a fresh new face to the world.
All his talk about bipartisanship is hooey, as neither side wants to reconcile with the other. They make their political bread and butter demonizing each other, why the hell would they want to work together, lose their respective base support, and further marginalize themselves by increasing voter apathy and disinterest in the political process? Because you know that as soon as both sides start working together to get things done no one is going to pay attention anymore. We only pay attention to train wrecks and freak shows, that's the reality today.
So how is Obama gonna change a system neither side of the two party system wants to change? They change the system, they can't game it when their in power. Yeah it sucks when you're in the minority, but when you get in the majority you got it made, and neither side wants to change the status quo. I just don't see how Obama is going to change squat.
Instead I see the minority GOP running circles around him while he talks pretty and compromises to get them to and they never do, and they never will. Modern Republican politics are based on morality, and just as with morality itself the pious will never compromise. The Democrats will compromise, the Republicans won't. Most of the big name Republicans retiring this cycle, or that have retired in the last couple of years, have been the old skool fiscal cons and moderates. The GOP is becoming even more radical in it's morality based politics, that McCain has had to do and say what he has, even after the utter failure of Bush, is proof enough of the path the GOP has chosen.
We need Obama like when we needed Clinton, after the shit is over, when we can afford to take chances and try new shit and compromise. Obama's time is coming, I just don't think it's now.
posted by opus512 at 12:44 PM
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